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David Gemeinhardt's avatar

I'm fascinated to learn that Selim III corresponded with Louis XVI even before he came to the throne. That's an intriguing initiative on both sides.

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It's interesting to view this story in the context of the post-feudal consolidations (England, France, Russia and the like) and/or fragmentations (most Hapsburg territories, one way or another) that various parts of Europe went through over the course of the preceding two or three centuries, where the upper tier of non-royal nobility either carved up the kingdoms and empires they were a part of or finally had a national government imposed on them and their territories. Of course, there are also parallels to China's cycle of empire and fragmentation to consider in this context, and the earlier history of Islamic conquest and fragmentation that the Ottomans had replaced.

Do you think there is anything to that comparison, or am I perhaps being tricked by the fact that the Ottomans deliberately looked to Europe for templates of reform?

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